Joan Rivers is NOT Body Positive, Lena Dunham is Still Beautiful

    On an appearance last week during The Howard Stern Show on Sirius XM radio, Fashion Police host Joan Rivers criticized HBO star Lena Dunham for being unapologetic for her average, totally normal body.

    “You are sending a message out to people saying, ‘It’s okay! Stay fat! Get diabetes. Everybody die! Lose your fingers’,” Joan babbles. She goes on to say, “I’m on fire over hypocrisy,” regarding Dunham, “going on Vogue’s cover and looking gorgeous.”

    Whoops! Sorry, Joan! Forgot us thicker gals can’t be gorgeous. Or cover models. Our mistake. Groan.

    Rivers, who pleads that Dunham, “Try to look better!” has admittedly gone under the knife (and needle) for over 700 cosmetic procedures. It is clear that, even at a ripe 80 years old, she has completely given in to the beauty ideal. It seems her role as an authority in fashion has given her a complex, as she now apparently has the right to dictate how others display and take pride in their bodies.

    Actually, Dunham thinks of her body much differently than Rivers, and other onlookers, may think.

    “It’s just a vessel I’ve been given to move through this life. I think about my body as a tool to do the stuff I need to do, but not the be all and end all of my existence,” she told the Gothamist.

    Whether she knows it or not, Dunham is breaking beauty barriers, showing that it is OK to be successful, be gorgeous, and be funny… all in the beautiful body of an average woman.

    Listen to the full clip below.

    Joan, have you ever considered what message you’re sending women with your own body and face? Couldn’t it be argued that they, on top of your words, are promoting an unhealthy body image in women everywhere? Although, perhaps most people have labelled you an anomaly by now.

    What do you think of Joan’s criticisms? Quoting directly from the book of Mean Girls, “Calling somebody else fat won’t make you any skinnier.”



    1. Joan Rivers has to learn to keep her opinions to herself – especially because she had so many surgeries that her brows are on her hairline at this point.

    2. Someone who has had that many cosmetic surgeries likely has some kind of body dysmorphia. As the great RuPaul says, “If you can’t love yourself, how in the hell are you gonna love somebody else?” I feel sorry for Joan, putting her impossible beauty ideals on herself and everybody else.

    3. For a while now, I have been thinking how Joan Rivers is looking more and more like the Duchess of Alba – it comes of overdoing the plastic surgery 😀 Didn’t anyone ever teach her that if she can’t say something nice, she should say nothing at all?

    4. Too many women have complexes over their appearances nowadays because of women like Joan. I’m on the chunkier side and if I ever call myself “fat” my boyfriend tells me to hush up because I’m beautiful. I feel more comfortable with myself now than I did when I was 105 lbs.

      • Glad to hear that you’ve found your way to be comfortable in the skin you’re in! But we also must remember that fat is just a descriptor word– society has linked a negative connotation to it. It’s entirely possible to be fat AND beautiful!

    5. Joan Rivers has built an entire career off making fun of the way people look. Not that that’s good or right, but that’s her schtick. To me it just seems like a desperate attempt to get attention in an era where “regular” looking people are becoming famous (and even cover models, like Dunham). Lena Dunham is relevant, Joan Rivers is not. I choose to just ignore her nonsense. 🙂

    6. Great post! Fat jokes really are among the lowest, laziest forms of comedy. The obsession with fat in our society is very much a moral panic — I wish people could focus more on (un)healthy behaviors rather than fixating on physical appearance.

      • Very well said, Coco. America has a ridiculous fixation on weight and body measurements when we really need to focus on inner health (physically AND mentally)! I agree it’s a lazy form of comedy too. When people in school used to try and crack a joke about my weight, I’d be like, “Really? You couldn’t think of anything else so you resorted to the most OBVIOUS jab??” Usually shut em up!

    7. “Try to look better”, what does she even mean by that? Lena is a beautiful woman, and there’s absolutely nothing wrong with the way she looks. Joan is the one trying to match the unattainable beauty standards (hence her love for plastic surgery), while Lena is embracing her natural figure, and I’m sure quite happy with it. Joan has a few things to learn 🙂

    8. Joan Rivers is a comedian so a lot of what she says stirs the pot much like Howard Stern and Chelsea Handler. To each their own, I agree that she shouldn’t have gone as far as calling Lena Dunham fat. And Lena D took the high road, as she should have!

    9. While I am not a fan of either Joan Rivers or Lena Dunham, Ms. Dunham is *not* fat, and she doesn’t look like she’s on her way to diabetes, and losing her fingers. She looks beautifully normal. Thank goodness! Everything coming out of Ms. River’s mouth is pure claptrap.


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